URGENT: Limitation de NT4

URGENT: Limitation de NT4 - Windows & Software

Marsh Posté le 18-05-2001 à 11:49:10    

en NT4 WorkStation SP6A, quelle est la taille maximum de Memoire RAM. et la taille maximum d'une partition.
 
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Marsh Posté le 18-05-2001 à 11:49:10   

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Marsh Posté le 18-05-2001 à 13:30:42    

Voilà pour les tailles de partitions :

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PSS ID Number: Q224526
Article last modified on 10-23-2000
 
:3.5,3.51,4.0,4.0 SP1,4.0 SP2,4.0 SP3,4.0 SP4,4.0 SP5,4.0 SP6,4.0 SP6a
 
 
 
 
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The information in this article applies to:
 
 - Microsoft Windows NT Server versions 3.51, 4.0, 4.0 SP1, 4.0 SP2, 4.0 SP3, 4.0 SP4, 4.0 SP5, 4.0 SP6, 4.0 SP6a  
- Microsoft Windows NT Server versions 4.0, 4.0 SP4, Terminal Server Edition  
- Microsoft Windows NT Server, Enterprise Edition versions 4.0, 4.0 SP4  
- Microsoft Windows NT Workstation versions 3.5, 3.51, 4.0, 4.0 SP1, 4.0 SP2, 4.0 SP3, 4.0 SP4, 4.0 SP5, 4.0 SP6, 4.0 SP6a  
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SUMMARY
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Although Windows NT 4.0 can in theory support partitions of up to 16 exabytes in
size using the NTFS file system, the maximum size of the system partition is
limited to 7.8 gigabytes (GB).
 
MORE INFORMATION
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The system partition is defined as the partition containing the files needed for
the initial system startup. For Windows NT, the files are Ntdetect.com, NTLDR,
Boot.ini, and sometimes Ntbootdd.sys.
 
A boot partition is defined as the partition containing the system files. For
Windows NT, this is the partition containing the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.
 
The system partition and boot partition can be on the same partition or on
different partitions. Because there can be multiple operating systems installed
on a single computer, a computer can have multiple boot partitions, but a
computer has only a single system partition.
 
In some cases, the boot partition must be entirely within the first 7.8 GB of the
drive. If the Boot.ini file uses the multi() syntax for locating the boot
partition, NTLDR uses the INT13 interface to load the HAL, the kernel, and
boot-start device drivers. In this case, these files must reside within the 7.8
GB addresseable range of the INT13 interface. If the Boot.ini file uses scsi()
syntax to find the boot partition, then a file named Ntbootdd.sys should exist
on the system partition. This file is simply a renamed copy of the disk
controller driver. In this case, NTLDR uses the Ntbootdd.sys driver to access
the disk when loading the HAL, kernel, and boot-start device drivers. The
addressable area of the disk is determined by this driver.
 
When an Intel-based computer first boots, a number of things occur that result in
the operating system being loaded and started. This process, known as the
bootstrap process, has inherent hardware and software limitations beyond which
Windows NT cannot operate. It is these limitations that prevent Windows NT 4.0
from using a partition larger than 7.8 GB as a system partition.
 
During the bootstrap process, the only mechanism available to Windows NT (or any
other operating system) to access the drive is a set of functions in the BIOS
known as Interrupt 13 (INT13). The INT13 functions allow low-level code to read
from and write to the drive by addressing a specific sector on the drive. When
the INT13 architecture was developed back in the early 1980s, the possibility of
multi-gigabyte hard disks was not taken into consideration. The INT13 functions
define 24 bits to describe a sector on the hard disk. This breaks down to a
maximum of 256 heads (or sides), 1024 cylinders, and 63 sectors. With these
numbers, only 256*1024*63 (or 16,515,072) sectors can be used with INT13
functions. At a standard 512 bytes per sector, this is 8,455,716,864 bytes, or
approximately 7.8 GB. Note that for most modern drives, the computer's BIOS must
support some form of sector translation for the BIOS functions to address the
first 7.8 GB of disk space. The BIOS in virtually all modern computers supports
"Logical Block Addressing," which allows INT13 functions to address the first
7.8 GB of drive space independent of the drive's physical geometry.
 
The INT13 functions are the only means available to the operating system to gain
access to the drive and system partition until the operating system loads
additional drivers that allow it to gain access to the drive without going
through INT13. Therefore, Windows NT 4.0 cannot use a system partition larger
than 7.8 GB. In fact, the entire system partition must be entirely within the
first 7.8 GB of the physical disk. Windows NT can use a 7.8-GB system partition
only if the partition begins at the start of the physical drive.
 
NOTE: Partitions other than the system partition are not affected by the these
limitations.
 
Other operating systems, such as Microsoft Windows 95 OEM Service Release 2,
Microsoft Windows 98, and Microsoft Windows 2000, can boot from larger
partitions because these operating systems were written after the computer
industry defined a new standard for BIOS INT13 functions (the "INT13
extensions" ) and implemented this new functionality on manufactured
motherboards. Because Windows NT 4.0 was written before this new standard was
invented, Windows NT 4.0 is unaware of this new technology and is unable to use
its features.
 
When you are installing Windows NT 4.0, you can create a system partition with a
maximum size of 4 GB. This occurs because Setup first formats the partition
using the FAT file system. If you want to use an NTFS partition, the partition
is converted to NTFS after the first reboot. The FAT file system has a file
system limitation (unrelated to any BIOS limitations) of 4 GB. When you perform
an unattended installation, use of the ExtendOEMPartition directive in an
Unattend.txt file can expand the system partition to a maximum of 7.8 GB.
 
In the future, additional limitations may come into play as well. Although the
NTFS file system can address 16 exabytes of disk space in a single partition,
current disk-partitioning schemes store partition information in structures that
limit partitions to 2^32 sectors, or 2 terabytes, in size. The ATA hardware
interface uses 28-bit addressing, which supports drives that are 2^24 sectors,
or 137 GB, in size. These limitations may apply to partitions other than the
system partition as well.
 
Note that file system limitations and hardware limitations exist independently of
each other, and the most restrictive of the two is the determining factor in the
maximum partition size. Another factor to consider when you are troubleshooting
partitioning problems is that hard disk manufacturers often use "decimal
megabytes" (1 megabyte = 1,000,000 bytes), whereas Windows NT uses "binary
megabytes" (1 megabytes = 1,048,576 bytes). Using both definitions of a megabyte
in calculations can often account for "lost" disk space. Also, this article
assumes a sector size of 512 bytes in all calculations. Although a 512-byte
sector has become a de facto industry standard, it is possible that disk
manufacturers could produce drives with a different sector size. This would
result in a corresponding change in partition limits. Partitions are based on
cylinder, head, and sector calculations, not on byte calculations. Therefore, a
change in bytes per sector causes a change in bytes per partition.
 
REFERENCES
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For additional information about disk partitioning and limitations, please see
the following articles in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
 
   Q114841 Windows NT Boot Process and Hard Disk Constraints
 
   Q119497 Boot Partition Created During Setup Limited to 4 Gigabytes
 
   Q197667 Installing Windows NT Server on a Large IDE Hard Disk
 
   Q185773 NTFS Corruption on Drives > 4 GB Using ExtendOEMPartition
 
   Q227879 Formatting Using the Compaq Array Configuration Utility
 
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Marsh Posté le 18-05-2001 à 13:30:52    

Merci

 

[edit]--Message édité par guy066--[/edit]

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Marsh Posté le 18-05-2001 à 13:44:05    

je cherche concernant la quantité maximum de RAM, mais je ne trouve rien pour le moment par contre je suis tombé sur cet article concernant le tout. Tu as un problème précis ?

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PSS ID Number: Q264450
Article last modified on 02-22-2001
 
:4.0,4.0 SP6,4.0 SP6a
 
 
 
 
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The information in this article applies to:
 
 - Microsoft Windows NT Server versions 4.0 SP6, 4.0 SP6a  
- Microsoft Windows NT Workstation versions 4.0, 4.0 SP6a  
- Microsoft Windows NT Server, Enterprise Edition versions 4.0, 4.0 SP6a  
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IMPORTANT: This article contains information about editing the registry.  
Before you edit the registry, make sure you understand how to restore it if
a problem occurs. For information about how to do this, view the "Restoring  
the Registry" Help topic in Regedit.exe or the "Restoring a Registry Key" Help  
topic in Regedt32.exe.
 
SYMPTOMS
========
 
The upper limit of a program's minimum working set can be significantly less on
a Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 6a-based computer than what it may be when you are
running Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 5 or earlier.
 
CAUSE
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Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 6 addressed an issue where a user-mode program could
request more physical memory than what is actually installed on the local
computer. This could prevent the non-paged pool from expanding, and this can
cause the system processes to run out of memory.
 
RESOLUTION
==========
 
A supported fix is now available from Microsoft, but it is only intended to
correct the problem described in this article and should be applied only to
systems experiencing this specific problem.
 
To resolve this problem, contact Microsoft Product Support Services to obtain the
fix. For a complete list of Microsoft Product Support Services phone numbers and
information on support costs, please go to the following address on the World
Wide Web:
 
   http://support.microsoft.com/directory/overview.asp
 
NOTE: In special cases, charges that are normally incurred for support calls may
be canceled, if a Microsoft Support Professional determines that a specific
update will resolve your problem. Normal support costs will apply to additional
support questions and issues that do not qualify for the specific update in
question.
 
The English version of this fix should have the following file attributes or
later:
 
  Date      Time               Size       File name      Platform
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 11/03/2000  05:31p           956,672    Ntkrnlmp.exe   Intel
 11/03/2000  05:30p           936,384    Ntoskrnl.exe   Intel
 11/03/2000  05:27p           1,409,216  Ntkrnlmp.exe   Alpha
 11/03/2000  05:27p           1,385,216  Ntoskrnl.exe   Alpha
 
STATUS
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Microsoft has confirmed this to be a problem in Windows NT 4.0 SP6a.
 
MORE INFORMATION
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WARNING: Using Registry Editor incorrectly can cause serious problems that may
require you to reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot guarantee that
problems resulting from the incorrect use of Registry Editor can be solved. Use
Registry Editor at your own risk.
 
For information about how to edit the registry, view the "Changing Keys and
Values" Help topic in Registry Editor (Regedit.exe) or the "Add and Delete
Information in the Registry" and "Edit Registry Data" Help topics in
Regedt32.exe. Note that you should back up the registry before you edit it. If
you are running Windows NT or Windows 2000, you should also update your
Emergency Repair Disk (ERD).
 
The memory manager in Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 6 allows for non-paged pool
memory to grow to its maximum size before allowing a program to increase its
minimum working set size. For additional information about calculating non page
pool memory, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft
Knowledge Base:
 
   Q126402 PagedPoolSize and NonPagedPoolSize Values in Windows NT
 
By reducing the maximum size of the non-paged pool, programs will be able to
receive a larger working set size. The non-paged pool can be reduced by
configuring the following new NonPagedPoolMaximumPercent registry entry:
 
   HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory
  Management
 
   Value Name: NonPagedPoolMaximumPercent
  Data Type: REG_DWORD
  Radix: Decimal
  Data: 0 or 5 - 80
 
   0 = Keeps the old behavior (default)
  5 - 80 = The percentage of RAM that is allowed to be non-paged pool.
 
It is important to understand that excessively reducing the size of the non-paged
pool may prevent Windows NT from functioning correctly. If the non-paged pool
becomes exhausted, Windows NT generates Stop error messages. The Stop errors
that are most likely to occur if the non-paged pool becomes exhausted include
Stop 0x4D NO_PAGES_AVAILABLE, Stop 0x41 MUST_SUCCEED_POOL_EMPTY or other Stop
error messages.
 
If the NonPagedPoolMaximumPercent registry value is to be modified from the
default value of 0, you should determine the current non-paged pool usage. You
can do so by monitoring the following memory counter with Performance Monitor
over a period of time. Examine the counter memory / non-paged pool, and find the
maximum size it grows to. Use this as the minimum size the non-paged pool should
be set to. However it would be strongly recommended to allocate more non-paged
pool memory to allow for system usage changes.
 
The problem with a reduced working set size is very unique, and unless a program
requests an increase of its minimum working set size very significantly this
problem will not be noticed.
 
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Marsh Posté le 18-05-2001 à 13:53:40    

tu es décidément fort Prolixe, et je t'en remercie...
 
Je n'ai pas de pb particulier, je veux juste connaitre les limitation Sup de l'OS, les Maximum requirement en qq sorte.
 
histoire de savoir quel OS utiliser...

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