une rumeur grandissante sur le net : les audigy ne serait en fais qu'une vaste supercherie: un EMU10K avec un support firewire point.
 
de la rumeur un site chinois qui expliquait comment hacker les SB live et les tranforme en audigy.
 
le site web a été fait fermer par creative.
 
voici un miror du site avec les manips ainsi que la plainte deposé par creative a l'encontre des hackers..
 
http://www.dearhoney.idv.tw/

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du chinois....  

Oui... cette rumeur est grandissante... je l'ai croisée par-ci, par-là... jusqu'où ira-t'elle ???    

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Ouf je l'ai fait,un peu difficile,la traduction d'abord,puis les manips(microsoudures et composants aditionnels difficiles à trouver) mais ça marche et c'est vrai qu'à l'oreille y a pas photo!!!
Je recommande le truc à vous tous ce n'est l'affaire que de quelques heures pour une économie non négligeable      
 
Ouatseup

Ouatseup a écrit a écrit : Ouf je l'ai fait,un peu difficile,la traduction d'abord,puis les manips(microsoudures et composants aditionnels difficiles à trouver) mais ça marche et c'est vrai qu'à l'oreille y a pas photo!!! Je recommande le truc à vous tous ce n'est l'affaire que de quelques heures pour une économie non négligeable         Ouatseup

Nan, t sérieux la ?
SI oui, tu pourrais faire un guide en francais ?
Toutes les lives sont concernées (a base de l'EMU10k1) ou seulement la Live 5.1 ???

Ouaip...
Et t'as pas aussi un truc pour transformer le plomb en or ?

Bof...
On avait déja eut droit avant a la transformation de la Live 1024 en une carte Professionnel à  + de 1000 boules il y a un an, avec seulement des drivers spécifiques dévellopés par un équipe qui avait reparqué les similitudes entre les deux cartes (même chip Emu 10k1...)
Donc pkoi pas ?

Mmh, on transforme bien les crayons a papier en diamant...

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vous avez jamais vu les prototypes de la nasa de systèmes de recyclage d'urine et d'excréments pour les stations spaciales ?
 
bon oki je sors ( mais c po une connerie )...

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Up, c'est intéressant...

j'y crois pas

lorsque certain se sont rendue compte que seul le header des firmaware des emu10k differaient entre la version a 500F des pc et celle a 10000F des synthé.. personne n'y a crut avant que les petit malin crake les drivers de la version pro...
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/thro [...] lst?.dir=/
 
voila une traduction petit negre du truc en chinois
 
http://www.worldlingo.com/wl/Trans [...] reativeHK/
 
The matter origins  
Has one big? Friend ， In home station? One name? ： "? -? New AUDIGY this world? Biggest sound effect card? Bureau ！ ！ ！" ， Accommodates is? How states? Sb Live! The sound effect card is peaceful? Specific? Formula ， Causes the function to rise? SB Audigy. I receive to October 30th, 2001? From Hong Kong's aviation? ， Is the Creative committee? Hong Kong "? Law? The line " sends? My ， Accommodates the general idea is? I pick off this one? String. Ponder? Date ， Tests all quarters Italy? ， Decides incompletely illuminates? ， The after reason states.  
 
Primitive article  
Below? Article ， I can? Decides most early is not? Table to home station ， But is in is big? Station. The table person uses? Lu Dai? Is APOLLON， To the home station is one from? From Shanghai? Friend sad， To home station? Is on September 27th, 2001 morning 9:10， Article already? Becomes BIG-5?  
 
New AUDIGY this world? Biggest sound effect card? Bureau ！ ！ ！  
Steals Liang? Column +? Day? Sea =AUDIGY？ SBLIVE? AUDIGY  
 
With EMU10K? Main chip LIVE series sound effect card? In 1998 surface city by? Already? Entire three year ， Funds? CREATIVE Corporation? Advantage? Is? But? ， Because? The big performance causes the CREATIVE Corporation in the global sound effect card? The territory at present only can use ? One? Xiu ? Four characters describe. But ， To ncVidia Corporation three? The month promotes the new product? Speed? ， CREATIVE Corporation's grind? Speed? Is has? Cow. Also? Sends at the beginning of this year? Beginning? Company stock? The standard one road falls ， Decline range make person? Refers. Thereupon ， In whole world? It everywhere ? Does not think? Takes ? Center ， Recently the CREATIVE Corporation promoted its new generation of sound effect card SOUND BLASTER the AUDIGY series? ， In? Raised the noisy however big wave. AUDIGY series sound effect card? With were many? New technique? ， Therefore CREATIVE Corporation official? Is comprehensively substitutes the LIVE series? Generation?  
 
In this me? Wants? Is not Sound Blaster Audigy performance ， But was recently in? Above? Popular one? Slights the law ， AUDIGY? Formula as well as? Peaceful? On SB LIVE ， How has? Effect ？ Is precisely because? CREATIVE Corporation's ? Does not think? Takes ? ， Whole world so? The big LIVE series sound effect card uses? Group in? Near? Year long time? Has? To rises? LIVE WARES institute? Performance promotion and psychological pleasant sensation. I? Previous time obtains? Feeling must? Recounts to 1999 LIVE WARES 3.0? Period of five days. To CREATIVE Corporation LIVE WARES 4? ， Bright DIYER is big? Made? AUDIGY? As well as necessary? Peaceful? SB LIVE series sound effect card? Steals Liang? Column? Day? Sea method. Under I? Has a look? Needs to be assorted? Stage prop ：  
 
Peaceful? Has SOUND BLASTER the LIVE series sound effect card the multi- intermediaries? One set of （ Needs to spend? People? Certain Yuan? May in wilfully one? City? Obtains ）  
SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY? One? （ Needs to spend? Saliva certain? May with one? Already? Has SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY the big funds or? The friend borrows ）  
SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY BETA version? One set of （ Root? Above? The way is different needs to spend? Minute? To? Small? Is different? May? Family? The station obtains ， Position site following ： http://file2.mydrivers.com/sound/UDA_beta.zip， However? Also needs to spend? Includes? In? People? Certain ）  
Has? Above? ， May? Hand. Receives? With? Beginning ， Peaceful? Micro? Company's WINDOWS 2000 does? Department? ， In? Department? Has? Operation step? Following ：  
 
Beginning － Sets at － Control desk － Department? ? Hard? --? management  
Unfolds? Effect? With? Controller one?  
Right? SBLive WDM Basic device? Unloads?  
Right? Gameport for SBLive? Unloads?  
Changes name wdma10k1.inf.old（ wdma10k1.inf; Finds with the search function? Document? Changes name ）  
Changes name wdma10k1.pnf.old （ wdma10k1.pnf; Same states ）  
Inserts the AUDIGY sound effect card? Disc ， AUDIGY disc from? Line of peaceful? Mays then ， Peaceful? In the regulation prompts unloads? Sound effect card? No  
Again?  
Department? Considers? New Audio controller is hard? ， Whether peaceful? Formula? Restless? Department? Considers? New gameport controller is hard? ， Whether peaceful? Formula? Restless? （ Extremely important ， If? Peaceful? Also? Peaceful? Old edition LIVE? ）  
Line of AUDIGY BETA? Under \\UDA_beta\\UDA_beta\\Audio\\English\\drivers C$tZAPXX.exe prompts peacefully? Hard? Peaceful? WDM?  
Again? Already? OK. Also AUDIGY forms a complete set series? All already? Peaceful? Completes. Includes does new edition PLAYCENTER, MIXER, EAX controller and so on ， All already? Was allowed normally to use.  
All? The piece all may? Enlarges （ According to ： Friend? Has? Piece to me? Stands ）  
 
Needs to pay attention is ： Thousand? Line of official? ? X:\\Audio\\English\\Drivers item? ? C$tZAPXX.exe? Document ， After line? But actually official version ， But? Says entire? ， Pretage to 後置 went to ， Has one? Road? ， Cuts? Cuts? ！ Root? CREATIVE Corporation? Project? The law is he? In? Some? Decides sentiment? Therefore in official version AUDIGY? Center cancelled? LIVE series sound effect card support. Has? Sentiment? Also not really? Solves ， Or? CREATIVE most does not want to see sentiment? Is? Steals Liang? Column use? In groups leaves in groups?  
 
If? According to above procedure ， That? Your SB LIVE? Some small small BUG. First? Is SOUND FONT management work not normal ， Is one? Fatal BUG， Lost SOUND FONT management that? LIVE sound effect card on and so on to? One half. May be unacceptable ， Explores ， in every way; To finds the understanding? Method. First? Formula item? Next COMMON item? ? sfman32.dll beats? Leaves? For instance beats? To A:? Then BOOT to DOS or any other OS. （ So long as? OS energy? XP minute? ） ， Arrives WINDOWS in addition the department? Item? Next （ Generally is \\Windows item? \\System32） ， With? Only then beats? Leaves? That? sfman32.dll goes for? Has had that? Then again BOOT to windows， Order? Was allowed to use. ? Sees SOUND the FONT management? Good? After surface ， To? One?  
 
I? In? Line of AUDIGY? Formula? Looks the sound effect card is partial whether true work normal ？ The answer is affirmative. AUDIGY? Formula already? Complete quilt? In 1998? SOUND BLASTER VALUE meets? Also formula? Line normal. I? In MIXER? Sets at ? The surface sees peacefully? AUDIGY? Latter SB LIVE sound effect card already? Had the AC-3 solution? Function ， So long as? Cancelled gets may enjoy. However ， If you hope your LIVE passes? SPDIF? Leaves not? Solution? AC-3? Position PCM flows? Must? Checks off ， For instance? Has DTT2500D? Big funds? Must? Attention? One?  
 
Was completing so? After regulation ， I? It is necessary? Next heart? Ponders some?  
 
Assorted? May? AUDIGY? With? Provides? LIVE series sound effect card use ？  
Is one? Confuses ， I? Sees? Core is based on e10kx2k.sys? One? Document ， E10K contain? Whether? emu10k ？ Does not know ， Is it possible that CREATIVE? Strength promotion AUDIGY still used EMU10K? Once? LIVE series sound effect card? Makes? Bright 主音 effect chip ， Also is? With one? New jar? Three year front? Liquor ？
What wants? AUDIGY? With? Provides? LIVE series sound effect card use ？  
Because? Peaceful? Was new? With is new? Latter I? LIVE sound effect card once more? Youth ， Shows? Big function and vitality. May? AUDIGY may? Renewal EAX function as well as for example ? Sound speed? Entire ? Function I? All energy? Embraces in the LIVE series sound effect? So long as uses the new edition PLAYCENTER? Also? Right? EAX? May? Set. I? For the time being? This? Does is? CREATIVE Corporation? Does not promote LIVE WARES 4? Ok? One? Anti-?  
Actually does AUDIGY have which compared to LIVE? ？  
Looks? Already? Did not need again to raise ， Hard? Above? Also was many 24BIT? The sound / rebroadcasts as well as 1394 lies between the surface. 24BIT? The sound / rebroadcasts only needs? LIVE does one? Hard? Above small hand? Was allowed ， 1394 lies between the surface cost also? Is not high. So looks? Whether AUDIGY is 24BIT edition SB LIVE adds on 1394 lies between surface ？ Also? Wants? CREATIVE Corporation.  
AUDIGY and LIVE outcome? Is worth? ？  
Not whether or not? ， LIVE series sound effect card? Standard in today already? May? Is? Inexpensive ， Steals Liang? Column +? Day? Sea on and so on to SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY version SB LIVE. If your pocket ? Ticket? Not sufficient ， Also with? One? Has the foot? Patient sum? ， Moreover? DIY is sufficient? Interest ， May with? One? Eats one crab is one time of brave warrior. If you are one? Meets? Use? Also wants to obtain high? Sound? Enjoys? ， Constructs? You? Is direct? CREATIVE Corporation's SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY? Unexpectedly you only need? Peaceful? One may? The beginning enjoyed ， But does not need to look like? Booklet? One ， Tired half dead. Unexpectedly 24BIT institute? Sound? Improvement? 16BIT? Yes? In? One? 1394 lies between the surface card? Needs 500 Yuan about today ， Spend the 9XX Yuan? One? Sound? Good? Has 1394 lies between surface SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY looks? Is very that worthwhile.  
 
Collection all quarters Italy? Latter ， The letter proposes request ， 11 in this male? Replies following ：  
 
Request immediately? Eliminates this one? Rest ， Yu Jie? This correspondence on fifth? ， All? It? Rest? Company? In station? Eliminates.  
 
Very is sorry ， I? Must? Defends? Friend word? Free ， Moreover? Friend institute? Accommodates? Must be the hole? ， Letter mouth? River ， Already? Multi- people? Feasible. If? One? The friend article completely is? Has? Fantasy picture article ， Home station from? Italy? Eliminates.  
 
However tests? Friend institute? Decides? ， Home station also? Not proper ， Therefore? "? -? New AUDIGY this world? Biggest sound effect card? Bureau ！ ！ ！" Changes? "? - Sb Live! Value is peaceful? Audigy? Formula? ， Avoids? Article? Holds? Creative creates is not essential also? Evil.  
 
The request controls all? In station ， All illegal obtains Creative β Formula ultra? Or? According to index ， Entire? Eliminates and （ Or ）  
 
Same ， Safeguard word? Free ， Also does? History? ， I? Italy? Eliminates in? In the string leaves? URL. The home station can manage? Under dearhoney.idv.tw this domain all? ， Superhigh? domain? ， I? Has? Law? Principle.  
 
Request? Company not? Controls? In dear honey? Stands or any by? The company controls other? Station? Rest ， By? Guarantees does not send once more? Or by any other way disseminations? Creative and its? It? Sex? Or? Word?  
 
I? Receives? ， If leaves? Word? ， I? Italy by? Eliminates or? Way? Manages ， But? Friend? Person? To? Italy? Perhaps? ， So long as is 言之有物， I? All? Safeguards his word? Free.  
 
Request? Company Yu Jie? This? Bright? ， It? To? Company? Stands ， Time on 90th.  
 
I? Italian generation? From Creative official? Reprimands uses Audigy? Formula? SoundBlaster Live! Proclaims? ， But? Pays attention ， Whether? Proclaims? ， By home station? Decides ， Also? Yu Dai? At the end of article ， Adds on the home station view ， Considers? Friend? Matter truth ， But is not one-sided? The Creative official manifesto settles. As for 90th request ， Home station? Short? Decides? Lies in home station ， Also in home station ， Aspect request ， I? Has? Independence?  
 
This letter and its? Accommodates? Company ， By series printing document or? Sub- form to any third party disclosure. Like? The company not observes this? Proposes it requests ， Creative? It may? All legal method ， Includes （ But is not restricted in ） To has? Administration? Or judicature? Officially gets up?  
 
I? The law sentences? Company's request is does not permit to announce this one letter? Accommodates ？ Yes? The essence informs? Seals the letter? The useful other ways inform third party ？ I? ， As a result of in anticipation? Has? Next any agreement? ， Therefore? Company? Holds true by ， Also? Has? The standard requests me? Learns? According to? I? Position? Repairs? Gives to repair? ， As for? Company other request ， I? Own? Decides whether accepts.  
 
In addition ， Home station? One? Person? Stands ， Is not by the company? Goes? ， In? Has? Favorable matter? Ascends? ， Also? Has? One? ， Each? The month does not need? Junction? ， Every year does not use? Junction? Favorable matter? Obtained? ， Home station also? Has? Table? Profit table, every year stock? Profit? Table? Gold 流量表 and so on
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
bon je sais c'est incoprehencible, mais il y a bien qq ici qui parle chinois ?
 
 
PS: pour les farceurs plus haut: il ne s'aggit pas de faire de la microsoudure de composant de surface...
comme expliqué ici
http://www.worldlingo.com/wl/Trans [...] 155446.htm
The Audigy's Emu 10K2 chip might not be everything Creative has made it out to be. (Now, I hope no one thinks Creative has been wildly innovative in the first place, but the Audigy and its Emu 10K2 chip have been billed as a truly new product.) Instead, the Emu 10K2 may be nothing more than an Emu 10K1 chip (found in the Live! series) with IEEE 1394 support added. Most of the rest of the improvements Creative claims for the Audigy?especially the 24-bit/96KHz output capabilities?may come courtesy of a separate Philips DAC chip. The other features may be simple driver and software changes.  
 
Apparently, a Chinese or Taiwanese user hacked the drivers and made his SBLive! card into a fully fuctional Audigy, minus the Firewire ports (and, presumably, the Philips DAC).  
 
 
 
DONC vous n'aurez pas les dac 24 bit ni le firewire.
 
mais par contre le reste avanced eax etc..
 
 
Pourquoi attacher notre attention a ces chinois et quelle credibilité. hum
1) habitude de creative de faire du new avec du vieux les Live 5.1 vendue a leur sortie plus du double des lives etaient identique au live + 1 DAC (codec) suplementire à 3$.
 
2) interogation sur le pourquoi l'assignation du site web pour avoir publié la manipulation.
a)si la manip ne marche pas alors bon ben on s'en rend compte et encore un fake => poubelle, ca ne porte pas domage a creative
b) si la manip marche , il y a effectivement creative peur enventuellemt penser perdre des $ si moins de personnes leur achette les audigy. (mais meme la je trouve que c'est du foutage de geule)
 
 
plus inquitant, savoir que creative a porter plainte non pas sur l'article pointé mais sur le forum du site qui avant l'article expliquait la manip...
 
alors vais-je me faire sensuré pour avoir posté ca aussi ??
 
haw sad

La traduction taiwanais>anglais c'est pas encore ça...
 
Ceçi dis je ne serais pas etonné de voir sous peut des drivers AUdigy pour ma SBlive  

il n'y a d'autre url qui parle de ce truc ?

ah quand c'est traduit c'est plus la meme chose !!

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Ya pas une traduction correct quelque part ????

 
Non non. Précision:
La Live! utilise le même chip EMU que la carte Emu APS (carte son pro . +de 1000?) et un type avait *adapté* les drivers de l'APS à la Live! Le résultat était plus que convaincant, il transformait vraiment la Live! en APS, en intégrant les drivers ASIO2.0 (pour Cubase) offrant des tps de latence très bas et une qualité sonore curieusement meilleure!!! (surtout dans les basses, mieux définies). Ces drivers permettent aussi de faire des copies numérique bit-to-bit (via l'entrée S/PDIF de la Live! qui est normalement incapable de faire ce genre de manip car le chip EMU resample tout ce qui arrive sur la carte, dégradant donc la qualité.)
 
Voilà. Alors, connaissant Creative et la merde qu'est l'audigy, ca ne m'étonnerai qu'à moitié.

Si c'est vrai, ça permettrait d'avoir de vrais drivers XP

Quiconque a plus d'infos (sérieuses) là dessus m'envoies un mail merci!  
 
Pour le moment je suis plus que dubitatif mais je ne demande qu'à voir

bjone a écrit a écrit : vous avez jamais vu les prototypes de la nasa de systèmes de recyclage d'urine et d'excréments pour les stations spaciales ?

 
Ils transforment les excrements en crayons a papier ???
 
Je sors aussi ...

http://discuss.madonion.com/forum/ [...] t=all&vc=1

megido:
c'est sure que pour l'instant tout cela est inverifiable.
 
le seul moyen de pouvoir dire qq chose de constructif sera d'avoir acces aux doc technique du chip et a ces instructions

 
ça m'interresse !
T'aurais pas plus d'infos la dessus,links etc.. ?
Merci

ça y est g trouvé !
http://w1.910.telia.com/~u91003452 [...] rivers.htm

le plan de l'emu 10K1: c'est la:
ftp://opensource.creative.com/pub/doc/hog63.ps
reste a trouver ceux du 10K2
 
 
*** ops non il sont plus la
mais j'ai trouver un miroir la:
http://ftp.eecs.umich.edu/pub/linu [...] /creative/

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eh hop la traduction de ce qui faux faire..
 
Ofcourse that's all in Chinese, so I'll translate the main steps for you what's there  :
 
It's for WinXP
1) go to device manager
2) go to audio device/gameport
3) remove SBLive! WDM Basic Device
4) remove Gameport for SBLive!
5) backup wdma10k1.inf to wdma10k1.inf.old
6) backup wdma10k1.pnf to wdma10k1.pnf.old
7) Install official Audigy driver, and select "no" when prompt for "uninstalling driver"
8) restart
9) system report that new audio hardware is found, select do not install driver automatically System report new gameport device found, select do not install driver automatically.
10) run the audigy beta driver \\UDA_beta\\UDA_beta\\Audio\\English\\drivers\\CTZAPXX.exe, select install WDM driver (beta driver at http://file2.mydrivers.com/sound/UDA_beta.zip)
11) restart, everything okay except the sound font manager
12) copy the sfman32.dll from the "common" directoy of the audigy driver disc, boot to DOS or other version of windows (or safe mode?), then copy the sfman32.dll to System32 directory of windows
13) restart, everything okay, all functionality
 
the conclusion by that guy is that Audigy is just the old core with new manufacture method (thus different chip size, etc.) with 24-bit playback DAC and 1394 interface. He also hypothesized that Creatvie have their stock dropping a lot earlier last year and a lot of people are criticizing that their R&D is too slow, so they just make Audigy which based on the same old core while advertsing it as "with a lot of whole new technology and functionality"

je donne tout ce que je trouve en vrac
 
super liens a premiere vu faut modifier une eprom...je suis pu a ça pret..
 
http://www.digit-life.com/articles [...] index.html

la derniere adresse sert a transformer une sb live value en sb-live studio-pro ils expliquent comment reprogrammer l'eeprom 93c46 pour que la carte soit reconnu en sb live APS (Audio Production Studio) ils donnent les programmes et tout je voulais essayer mais c'est pas encore la meme chose que pour la transformer en AUDIGY OU LA SEUL les drivers beta suffisent...
pour ceux qui disent que c'est pas possible
et les geforce en quadro ? c'est pareil..

Y'a pas un truc pour transformer une SB PCI 512 en Live 1024 puis Live 5.1 puis audigy ?
 
Pke la SB512 elle a aussi le emu10K1.

Ou trouver les drivers beta pour XP ?
http://file2.mydrivers.com/sound/UDA_beta.zip c'est un 404
 
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qq'un peut confirmer l'astuce ? Je voulais tester la chose pour transformer ma Sblive! en Audigy mais le lien des betas drivers est HS...

Y a pas un Franco-Russe dans la salle ? J'ai trouvé unautre lien sur le sujet mais en Russe cette fois ci
 
http://sblive.nm.ru/AudigyCreativeWare/AudigyCW.htm

Avec un alliage à base de pâte de concombre masqué, j'ai transformé un 486 en PIV...
 
Ah, ok, je sors aussi...

attends avant de sortir tu as la recette    

mouef c chelou tout ça....
des drivers d'audigy peuvent bien partir sur une live, y'a certainement un tronc commun au niveau de l'init et du fonctionnement, (y'a bien un tronc commun entre les tnt2 et les geforces 4 pour les drivers unifiés bon oki j'éxagère....)
mais c pas passke les drivers bricolés sont passés que tout va passer.... un 386 éxécute bien du code 286, mais l'inverse non, donc ce qu'il devrait essayer le mec c'est de voir si les effets machin eax advanced hd marchent avec une sbilve bricolée+drivers audigy bricolés....