game cube , quelle bombe !! - Jeux Video
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 02:55:02
et oui... y'en a plein qui se rende pas compte...
pis le fait qu'elle semble "deja maitrisee" est simple, elle a une architecture simple et efficace qui permet de la programmer comme on veut et facilement
techniquement luigi mansion et rogue squadron sont loin devant ce qui se fait actuellement
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 03:11:28
bha,pour la Sony c de leur faute,ils ont pas su tirer un enseignement du succes de la 1er PSX
si la 1er PSX a pu niquer des consolle plus puisante qu'elle (N64,Sega),c grace a sa faciliter de programation,sur la PSX 2,c pas le cas!
dommage d'ailleur
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 09:37:11
Sony veut que des thunes , qu'est ce qu'ils en ont a foutre que se soit facile a programer ou pas , si ca foire et que leur chiffres sont mauvais , ben ils ont une PS3 et zou
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 10:17:22
Lynk a écrit a écrit : Sony veut que des thunes , qu'est ce qu'ils en ont a foutre que se soit facile a programer ou pas , si ca foire et que leur chiffres sont mauvais , ben ils ont une PS3 et zou |
lol !! c tellement vrai en +
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 10:46:49
N'empeche , je suis pas sur qu'au départ , ils avaient prévu un concurent nommé Microsoft en Mars il y a un an , chez sony ca devait étre du genre ... " vite vite faut sortir la PStou on va bouffer sega ! et s'installer avant que Nintendo débarque avec leur connerie , si ils ont en une ! "
-= 1 an plustard ... =-
" 'tain faut des jeux qud meme ya plus de joueurs ! C chaud on sort du marché jeuxvideo sans le vouloir et on part vers celui du dvd , saloperie ! Bon on cartonnera a l'E3 ... "
Suite du feuilleton ...
" Bon ca rulez , la conf Xbox est pourri , Nintendo c des gamins , nous on va rulez ! " 2 jours plustard " 'tain merde merde ! Nintendo sans meme avoir 10 jeux ils arrivent a baiser tout le monde ! merde merde bon restons calme ! Elle se vend bien la PS2 , merde elle se vend sur le marché du dvd et pas aux joueurs merde! ... ET merdeu ! la Xbox fait des jeux plus bo que la ps2 , gt3 perd de son effet boouhhouu ! Bon dernier solution ! Ammenez moi tout les éditeurs ! "
1 jours plustard " pffiouu on s'en est pas trop mal tiré , on a dévoilé tout notre stock de jeux une quarantaine environ et on a réussi a foutre des petites claques , mais c pas encore gagner ... saloperie de dv! oops Console ! décidement elle porte mal son nom ... "
Suite en Aout prochain
Bon faut que j'arrete de déconner moi
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 10:51:30
Ce qui m'enervent c'est que les jeux presentes par Sony a l'E3 risquent de marcher!:fou:
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 10:54:56
mcflyjr a écrit a écrit : Ce qui m'enervent c'est que les jeux presentes par Sony a l'E3 risquent de marcher!:fou: |
Pourquoi ça t'énerve? Ce sont de très bons jeux!
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 10:58:07
J'aime pas du tout Sony ("Sony m'a tuer (ma DC)" ) mais j'ai vu Jak&Daxter sur gameone et c'était ma foi fort joli et ça donnait envie...
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 11:02:55
Un détail qud meme pr le " sony j'aime pas " , hum Sony fait rarement des jeux
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 11:06:39
Quand je dis que j'aime pas Sony, ça veut dire que j'ai pas vraiment envie que ça soit leur console qui emporte le marché.
Le fait est que J&D tournera sur PS2 et que ça m'a plu.
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 11:24:25
c pas avec ses jeux ternes et aliasé que la ps2 tiendra la route techniquement face aux futurs concurents gamecube et xbox.
La difference sautera aux yeux du publique quand la gamecube et la xbox sortiront.
Et d'office que ces deux là(xbox et GC) gagneront bcps de clients because ils auront tout deux un gros budget marketing.
Et quand on reflechis bien ct le seul (gros)point faible de la Dreamcast, croyez moi que si Sega avait eu un budget marketing comme celui de la xbox par ex.(et qu'il y aurait eu bcps de pubs a la télé,radio,etc..) la DC aujourd'hui se serait déjà vendu a 25 millions d'exemplaire et je pese mes mots !
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Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 11:32:50
Ayim a écrit a écrit : si Sega avait eu un budget marketing comme celui de la xbox par ex.(et qu'il y aurait eu bcps de pubs a la télé,radio,etc..) la DC aujourd'hui se serait déjà vendu a 25 millions d'exemplaire et je pese mes mots ! |
pff même s'y s'avaient mis autant de pognon dans la pub dream que dans la pub saturn la ps2 serait morte aujourd'hui ...
tiens d'ailleurs si vous voulez vous fendre la gueule les pubs japonaises pour la saturn (qui mine de rien s'etait pas trop mal vendue au japon ) sont sur www.pubstv.com
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 14:13:31
non mais serieux c vrai que la GC va couter dans les 1500 balles ? si c le cas je dis bravo parcce que techniquement c impressionnant , en plus elle a l'air tres conviviale comme console contrairement au gros bloc noir de la ps2 qui me donne envie de gerber , la c tres fort !
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 14:38:24
oui c'est vrai que le rose fuchia ca donne envie de mâcher des marchmallows
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 14:55:34
je dirais plutot 1990f
mais bon meme a ce prix ca reste raisonnable pour une nouvelle console.
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 15:06:40
Heureusement que la NGC marcherait mieux que la PS2, elle sort bien plutard... Tout comme la X BOX.
Par ailleurs, je n ai pas joué a la NGC et la X BOX Donc je me priverai d'un avis du genre : elle explose tout elle, ou du style : c est une bombe celle la ! ... C est pas sorti alors restez zens les gens
Quant à la PS2, elle démontre son potentiel... de plus en plus, vos arguments ne sont plus valables. Puis vous racontez n importe quoi quant a dire que la PSX etait une machine simple a programmer blabla et blabla ... Si elle etait simple a programmer on aurait eu des resultats comme la Dreamcast ... pas d'evolution durant le temps, en clair on pousse la machine des la sortie (soul calibur). Or la PSX on est passé de Ridge racer à Ridge racer type 4 quand meme ... j en conclue, que si c etait une machine facile a programmer on aurait du RRT4 depuis 1995, ce n etait pas le cas. En somme on s attend au meme type d evolution avec la PS2... et ca a deja bien commencé avec Ridge 5 SSX ZOE et maintenant GT3...
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Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 15:08:17
Ahhhhh , je me disait la , "mais ou etaient ils passés ?" ...
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Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 15:09:53
nope
1690fr
c'est de loin le plus probable
par rapport au prix us de 200$
par rapport aux anciens prix des consoles nintendo
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 15:16:53
OOOOOOHHHHHH j avais meme pas vu mon vieil ami ayim !!! Comment t y vas ? Ben te voila !
Bon ben a la prochaine guy !
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 15:18:18
-VDV- a écrit a écrit : nope 1690fr c'est de loin le plus probable par rapport au prix us de 200$ par rapport aux anciens prix des consoles nintendo |
La PS2 est a 299$ avec un jeux et la DC a 99 $aux us. Moi je verais bien 1990 F pour la NGC. D'autant plus que le dollard est haut et ils aiment bien se faire un petit benef sur les frenchies. Y a qu'a voir le prix des DVD video...
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 15:27:53
J'sais po ? J'crois car la plupart du commerce international est calcule en US $ en particulier dans les milieux de l'info. Sinon, je ne sais pas le prix de ces consoles aux japons
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 15:29:10
lol ! salut Nisjoe400R
Pour ce que t'as dis sur la psx, ca ne tient pas très bien debout d'après moi mais bon
La psx etait facile a programmer et ca n'a pas empecher une progression graphiques dans ses jeux.
Ce sera pareil avec la gamecube/xbox.
La Dreamcast aussi mais elle a pas eu la chance de continuer dans ca carière commerciale.
On ne pourra s'appuyer que sur shenmue 1 et 2 ou Sonic 1 et 2 pour le prouver..(sans oublier les jeux de sport sega comme le basket, le nhl , le nfl, etc..)
Quand a la ps2 elle atteint quasiment ses limites avec GT3, de l'aveau même des developpeurs de GT3 ils ont dis qu'ils ne pourront pas faire mieux plus tard.
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Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 15:40:04
Nisjoe400R a écrit a écrit : Heureusement que la NGC marcherait mieux que la PS2, elle sort bien plutard... Tout comme la X BOX. |
c vrai,c 2 console sorte apres,donc elle ont une thechno + recente
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toujour vrai,mais les "gens",comme tu dit,il se fie au image de preview qu'il voie,c leur seul comparaison!
faudra voire leur avis quelque mois apres la sortie de c consol
sa me rapelle la N64,tout le monde disai qu'elle allait déchirer la PSX,rédultat,la PSX est encore la,et la N64 on entent plus parler
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encore une chance,les programateur commence seullement a apprendre a la programer
Citation : Puis vous racontez n importe quoi quant a dire que la PSX etait une machine simple a programmer blabla et blabla ... Si elle etait simple a programmer on aurait eu des resultats comme la Dreamcast ... pas d'evolution durant le temps, en clair on pousse la machine des la sortie (soul calibur). Or la PSX on est passé de Ridge racer à Ridge racer type 4 quand meme ... j en conclue, que si c etait une machine facile a programmer on aurait du RRT4 depuis 1995, ce n etait pas le cas. |
ben,vue la puisance en Mip (c pas representatif de la puisance d'une console,mais faison comme si),la PSX1 avait que 30 Mips,la saturn 2X25 Mips,et la N64 120 Mips,pourquoi la moins "puisante" de c consolle a niquer les 2 autres?? Car grace a sa faciliter de programation,les concepteur de jeu pouvait sortir un jeu potable réaliser par une équipe réduite,et un jeu grandiose avec une équipe normal
D'ailleur,a ma connaisance,Sony a memme sortie une version spécial qu'ont pouvait brancher sur un PC pour crée c propre jeu!
Citation : En somme on s attend au meme type d evolution avec la PS2... et ca a deja bien commencé avec Ridge 5 SSX ZOE et maintenant GT3... |
ben comme toujour,les jeux sont de plus en plus beau avec le temp,le temp que les programateurs si habitue,et dans 3 mois il seront encore + beau
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Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 15:52:36
Surpris ?
Et oui encore moi et remoi et toujours moi Je te suis a la trace n oublie jamais ca... Policier de l internet, tu es surveillais par toutes les polices du monde. Et tu dois payer pour avoir bousiller un forum Playstation ... On cherche un complice On sait qu il y en a un Il doit avoir une couverture, mais on le trouvera
Bon, sachez que seul ayim peut comprendre, ne vous grillez pas les neurones pour rien les autres
Ben je trouve qu a l epoque la PSX était graphiquement bien inferieur a la saturn, pourtant elle a su apres s exploser... Les perfs etaient la, mais sous exploitées, comme la PS2. M enfin bon, ayim entre nous, tu sais que je ne resterai pas ici, j ai assez donné : entre justifier, expliquer beaucoup de choses defendre certains point etc, j ai passé la main maintenant. Mais je viens en paix ici
Donc je disais ...
Pour les perfs incontestables de la Dreamcast, elle est peut être LA console qui a su des les premiers jeux montrer ce qu elle avait au fond des trippes, on a pas attendu 3 plombes pour avoir du tip top. On retient bien sur, shenmue, la reference graphique à l epoque.
Pour ce qui est des limites de la PS2 d apres Polyphony Digital (mon maitre Grand coucou a eux d ailleurs !!!), ils avaient dit la meme chose quand GT1 etait sorti D un autre coté la machine se montre bien en point en ce moment. GT3 a l heure actuelle montré du doigt pour etre la reference graphique, on attend des autres bestiaux qui arrivent avec la lourde tache de detroner SONY, de depasser les qualités de GT3 ou autres WRC 2001, MGS2 ...
La X BOX, on a pas eu le temps d en parler Ayim, mais pour moi j attends moulte preuves, idem pour la NGC ... j ai fait la meme chose pour la PS2. J attends que la machine soit entre mes mains et la tester ! C est pour ca que j ose pas affirmer qu une ou l autre est bien ou pas. C est stressant, mais y a qu a attendre et des la sortie tester les bestiaux de Krosoft et Nintendo.
On reparlera de tout ca quand les machines seront en plein combat dans les rayons... Ca devrait chauffer
Sur ce, je vous laisse discuter entre vous de tout ce petit monde, et je te laisse ayim On se reverra sans doute sur un chat
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Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 15:58:17
Dakkans >>>>>
Oui en effet, je suis d accord avec toi à 100%.
Sur ce je te salue
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Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 16:23:58
J oubliais : la PSX avec laquelle on pouvait faire ses jeux, c etait la Net Yaroze. Y en a eu que tres peu, il est rare d en trouver aujourd hui. On peut cependant jouer a quelques jeux tres limités dans les CD de demos.
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 16:29:41
Ok a la prochaine Nisjoe400R
ps: eh oui j'ai bousiller un forum ps2 dans mes debuts dans les forums.. mais je ne dirais rien de plus
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 16:53:45
Pour ton PS ayim : Chut ne dis rien, tu sais que je sais qui est le fameux complice chhuuuuutttt
Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 16:56:59
Les console c'est de la merde!!! vive les PC!!!
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Marsh Posté le 18-06-2001 à 02:45:19
wow , je viens de voir le reportage sur l'e3 a la teloche , quelle claque !!!
la gamecube n'est pas encore sortie que contraitrement a la ps2 elle a l'air d'etre deja maitrisee , c impressionnant :
rogue squadron 2 ! tin jamais vu aussi detaille ! j'en etait sur le cul , desole mais apres avoir vu ca , ( et d'otres dont 1 duquel le nom m'a echappe ) c pas un gran turismo 3 ou un mgs2 qui va m'impressionner loin de la , surtout avec le prix de la console , ca OUI c une evolution prenez exemple mr sony , et je ne suis pas anti - sony j'ai un playstation ( et surtout un pc lol ) mais la c une vrai arnaque la ps2 c mon sentiment je ne demande pas de reaction sur ce commentaire , je veut juste mettre en avant la PIUISSANCE de la gamecube , tin je devrait aerer mles textes lol